enhancement - Ruined spec

birthday · #1 (**permalink**) 05-15-2008, 09:37 PM

When i back in the days played my 2hander shammy on this server, i would often get a good windfury proc on that anoying mage standing in his flashy tier6, with 8.5 k health, and 0 ressilience. Which would result in a so called 'one-shot'.

The poor mage got frustrated, i mean how could a shammy with 2350 attack power, 49 crit, and the biggest 2hander this game has, kill me so fast? shouldnt my 1500 armor stop him?

I am pretty sure this all ended up in windfury being nerfed by gms, atleast something happened.

I just ask, how can something that is working as INTENDED be nerfed? People on retail counter enhancement shamans by stacking ressilience and mustering stamina high pvp gear.

For all that doesnt do, which includes tier6 mages (by far most squishy class in game)
this happens : (watch movie : Cele windfury moments on youtube, good geared shammy smashing pve or no ress geared 70's, like i once were able to)

No hax, no bugs, no opness. just the total lucky destruction of pve geared scrubs.

Just a little bit of QQ, from someone who have always played enhancement

wnxkokk · #2 (**permalink**) 05-15-2008, 10:19 PM

lawl, I wanna roll a lock and meet this t6 mage and have a 'chat'
btw enh has been dead for a while even in retail
btw shammys suck pretty hard atm in retail in general, except for resto, but just about any healing class is good for pvp and pve

birthday · #3 (**permalink**) 05-17-2008, 02:57 PM

I play retail myself, and yes, your right. Enhancement is concidered to be a not viable pvp spec, and in some ways, it is.

But when the only burst ability of an enchancement shaman is nerfed and ruined, then the spec is truely dead. Which i beleive is what have occured on Netherstorm.

Hulkamania · #4 (**permalink**) 05-17-2008, 06:43 PM

I have found the same thing. First of all I noticed Windfury isn't proccing at all on my shaman which may or may not be the case on other people's shamans, and in addition he is hitting very lightly when he should be smashing through stuff, I.E. Critting 1.5k or so on a normal hit when it should be like 2.5k or more.

I've noticed something strange on hunters as well. Arcane shot is INCREDIBLY nerfed, as I'm hitting like... 500's on people with Arcane Shot fully geared, which is VERY low. It should be more around 1.5k. I had a problem with Aimed Shot a while back but it looks like it is working decently at the moment. Multi-shot is also wierd, and hits your target for very little damage (I.E. around 750 Damage) and then hits additional targets for like 2.1k.

Ret Paladins have all but been completely annihalated by the level 80 updates, because of the imbalance in classes. The only thing I can hope for is an official buff to them once WoTLK comes out.

It really isn't that big of a deal for me though, because I BM and play on Shadowburn or on a healing druid when I do play on Netherstorm, but I just thought I'd throw that out there. I'm going to play around with the Multi-shot and Arcane shot a little more and probably submit a bug report. You might do the same if you believe it is not working as intended.

birthday · #5 (**permalink**) 05-17-2008, 06:47 PM

Ya hunters seems strange too. but still, with abit of skill, the right situration and good gear, they dish out some pretty mean damage on netherstorm :p

Also, Salad, you have been here for long, dont you think a total nerf of windfury is out of order?

dunno if you allready answered that.

Hulkamania · #6 (**permalink**) 05-17-2008, 06:53 PM

No I don't think it was out of order. Back in the day Enhancement Shamans were hitting for 11k on a Single Windfury Crit, and 1-shotting Full S3 Paladins. The nerf was necessary.

However, I do believe a COMPLETE nerf was not intended. If it was, it was simply to get the issue out of the way so that it could be addressed at a more convenient time, because at the moment the developers have their hands completely full with trying to fix everything that 2.4 messed up with the server. Hopefully they'll get a little help from the emulation community which according to Syn is scrambling after the update.

Everything takes time when a new patch comes out, especially one as major as this one, what with 2.4.2 introducing the new Gladiator season, and the new instances, as well as a new island, that of course not including the new skill updates and item updates, and you soon see that it's a daunting task.

And yeah, I still take people down 1v1 with ease on my NS hunter, and I am working a Night Elf up slowly on Shadowburn, so like I said it's not that big a deal to me since Aimed shot is working alright, and 99% of the scrubs on NS you can kite around all week.

So again, if you're really concerned about the problem, submit a bug report, that way you know you said something, and that it's in the proper place for someone in a position to deal with it to do just that.

birthday · #7 (**permalink**) 05-17-2008, 10:41 PM

Ive newer ever done that amount of damage on anything besides 2 k armor clothies, that includes both windfury procs critting. Ofc if that has happened to you, that must suck, especially when stacking ress throught pvp armor.
10 k single windfury crit on s3 pally makes me confused wether or not that was done by legal means.

One thing though, the 'nerf' of windfury took place before the whole 2.4 patch thingie.
I just wanna know wether the gms really did bring windfury to its knees, and if they have any plans on giving it a minor buff to allow ench pvp to be playable again. Thank you.

RikeuAmeva · #8 (**permalink**) 05-17-2008, 11:00 PM

I watched that windfury video, and all I can say is WOW

Moonfurby · #9 (**permalink**) 05-18-2008, 02:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Hulkamania

Ret Paladins have all but been completely annihalated by the level 80 updates, because of the imbalance in classes. The only thing I can hope for is an official buff to them once WoTLK comes out.

All I can say is...no. I have seen so many "retadins" dominate in guru, nagrand, or BEM. I myself have been oneshot or two-shot by these paladins all wielding the blacksmithing sword. So they are not as underpowered as you've said. I've played a paladin on retail since the first WoW beta, They have been buffed ever since those days. People QQ, blizz gets tired of it, blizz buffs them. Hence why they are so good now. Just my two cents.

Vanished · #10 (**permalink**) 05-18-2008, 03:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hulkamania

Ret Paladins have all but been completely annihalated by the level 80 updates, because of the imbalance in classes. The only thing I can hope for is an official buff to them once WoTLK comes out.

2 words:

Reakoning Bomb.